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Glasto: Aryan Folk Festival, says Swells

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http://www.thequietus.com/2008/04/glastonbury-aryan-folk-festival/
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LukeTurner | 16 Apr '08, 16:42 | Send note | Report this | Reply

What a fucking idiotic article.

I hate people like that writer. He wants trampling on by a herd of elephants. That'd show him.

wrightylew | 16 Apr '08, 16:48 | Send note | Report this | Reply

I've just read that

and I'm still slightly struggling to get the actual point of what he's on about. He's slagging off NME readers...and racism...and...Glastonbury? I don't know. Very confusing.

bamos | 16 Apr '08, 16:57 | Send note | Report this | Reply

It's a fairly typical Steven Wells piecei

in that he takes a reasonable point, tries to present it in the most confrontational ways possible, and loses part of the point in the process...

theguywithnousername | 16 Apr '08, 16:58 | Send note | Report this | Reply

It seems pretty stupid

basing the whole article on NME message board users views, there was a similarly stupid piece in the Gruniad today.

black_rooster | 16 Apr '08, 17:03 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Swells is entertaining

yeah, there's some truth in what he says, although he, as usual, loses the run of himself

he stuff for guardian sport on american sport is generally pretty amusing and similar

brusma | 16 Apr '08, 17:08 | Send note | Report this | Reply

There's always a germ of truth in what he says

Alright, so some of the NME stuff might not be out-and-out racist, but he's right to send up the blinkered isolationism of a lot of indie fans/musicians/magazines.

The US sport stuff is genius.

ColdGlassEye | 16 Apr '08, 17:10 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Yes but he then does the most frustrating thing left-wing people can do.

I.e. compares people to the Nazis.

To put this in context, the Nazis killed 5 million Jews. Some NME readers complained that a hip-hop act was headlining a festival. There is no comparison point between the two.

theguywithnousername | 16 Apr '08, 17:30 | Send note | Report this | Reply

wooah

wasnt The Quietus supposed to be a more adult and mature version of drownedinsound?

Jordan_229_2 | 16 Apr '08, 17:26 | Send note | Report this | Reply

really, it's such a non-article

Going on the NME forum and looking for dicks is like going to a KKK rally and going "LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE! THEY'RE ALL WHITE SUPREMACISTS! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!".
It's like he chose a topic at random that he could be "acerbic" about.

Glastonbury is going to sell out anyway. I really don't think Jay Zs career is going to be threatened by this. Likewise, people on the NME forum not liking anything other than NME music is not surprising.

Just grow up or something.

yes_ | 16 Apr '08, 17:37 | Send note | Report this | Reply

True dat.

If you'd put 15 year-old NME-reading me in front of a computer screen and asked me to type my views on hip-hop, they probably wouldn't have been something I'd look back on very proudly now.

There's me stereotypically assuming that every NME reader is 15. Maybe I'm as bad as the people Swells is on about. Anyway. Whatever.

bamos | 16 Apr '08, 17:39 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Exactly.

Every Swells column in the history of ever is him choosig a topic at random he can be "acerbic" about. He's an entertaning writer for sure but that shouldn't be confused with making an intelligent argument.

theguywithnousername | 16 Apr '08, 17:41 | Send note | Report this | Reply

I think if you read the article carefully enough

you will see that he has a point, and has carried it through, albeit in a relentlessly sarcastic and childish way.

I am, however, inclined to agree with the guy. I was disgusted by Noel Gallagher's comments, and have been disgusted by many of the responses to this whole tawdry Jay-Z affair.

I'm not branding everybody who has expressed a dislike of Jay-Z's music or suggested that he may be unsuitable to headline Glasto a MASSIVE RACIST. And neither is Swells.

But to suggest that Gallagher's comments as well as those of the more stringent of the message-board crusaders bear NO relation to the language of xenophobia and casual racism in this country (it doesn't belong here/it has no place here/we're being 'swamped' etc) is plain wrong.

ashstreath85 | 16 Apr '08, 18:26 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Facile tigre!

T'was only a joke.

The teeny-weenies who contribute to NME.com's forum have no memory of a time when indie meant, well 'indie'.

They were too young for the golden years, a period of readjustment is required.

Alex-in-Ciderland | 16 Apr '08, 18:31 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Sorry

to Alex-in-Ciderland, my response wasn't aimed at you - I know that was a joke!

My response is a general one.

But to yes_, I'm not sure how seriously to countenance your point in this age of irony. If you are serious that all "people that go to glastonbury want to see guitar bands", then good luck to you.

As you know, his words were - "But I'm not having hip-hop at Glastonbury. It's wrong". Luckily, it's not up to him, but his comments carry a weight which appeal to, and bring out the negative qualities that I mentioned in my earlier post, in other small-minded, one-dimensional cretins.

What disgusts me is that such a fucking idiot gets a public platform!!!

Anyway, never mind - I'm going to Latitude, I don't really like Jay-Z that much and Noel Gallagher is a cunt.

ashstreath85 | 16 Apr '08, 18:40 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Why are you disgusted by his comments?

He said that putting jay z on at glastonbury wouldnt go down well because people that go to glastonbury want to see guitar bands.

he was right. What is the issue?

yes_ | 16 Apr '08, 18:31 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Seems pretty racist of him to equate black people and rap

Most people are just complaining about a hip-hop/rap act headlining. Nothing wrong with not liking hip-hop. If they were demanding Enimen to replace Jay Z, then you might have a flimsy case.

But most of all, I bet if Bloc Party replaced Jay Z as a headliner, then there would be a lot of celebrating. It's all down to a taste in music, nothing to do with the colour of the skin.

This doesn't excuse the tedious moaning about one act out of hundreds though.

travisb | 16 Apr '08, 18:31 | Send note | Report this | Reply