Fugazi have lots of brilliant albums, sustaining their awesomeness for a very long time in terms of the lifespan of the average punk band.

but sometimes if i haven't listened to them for a while, like now, i still remember my love for them, but imagine them to be unexciting.. even though just writing this i know i'm completely wrong. i love at the drive in's electronic and fx based between song improvs and stuff, which fugazi have never had the range for. conscientiously tho...

and as much as refused obviously rule, they've got average hardcore albums in their discog, and whilst atdi have average jangle rock and punk pop eps, god theyre still SO EXCITING

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Fugazi are the greatest band of all time. I can't believe anyone could have the gall to even suggest that the likes of Refused or ATDI are in the same league. Neither are anywhere remotely close to the greatness of Fugazi.

but atdi had much more than 13 SONGS going for them. refused were always going to end up in the INVALID LITTER DEPT. in comparison

aren't really a patch on the other two, and I don't even like Fugazi that much.

Refused = FAIL

Dillinger Escape Plan? They developed a new sound, spawned loads of imitators but still refuse to stand still stylistically. Calculating Infinity is a massively influential record, and a great one. So they might prove to be as important as Fugazi yet.
And The Blood Brothers too- indebted to Botch, certainly, but at least three great albums which show great variation. And they're pretty much unique.
What d'you reckon?

very protools-y sounding. BUT STILL!

of what it is
OF WHAT IT IS
of what it is
OF WHAT IT IS
TO BE A MAAAAAN

it's music. How can lyrics be that important to you that if they are bad (and Fugazi lyrics aren't bad in any universe that contains Feeder and Oasis and most bands) they override the greatness of the music?
Would they be better if they sung in a foreign language?

but still, when you see a posthardcore band forming, their influences will ALWAYS mention these three bands

Listening to 'The French Letter' know. Consider that record ordered

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Refused have been put on the same par as ATDI and Fugazi.

Clearly either I'm completely missing out on Refused's influence, I don't know enough about 'posthardcore', or the implication that Refused are anywhere near as good as ATDI or Fugazi is a complete joke.

I'll do my research and get back to you. Refused had better be worth it though *shakes fist*

For me it would be Refused > Fugazi > ATDI, as much as I like ATDI I just think the other two were/are superior.

In terms of starting with Fugazi, I'd say Repeater's a good introduction, or find one of their most popular tunes like Waiting Room to ease you into their world.

But for me Refused take the crown

Start with Crazy Town's cover of 'New Noise', you'll LOVE it, promise.

in terms of how much theyre talked about,
but i've never had much of an emotional connection to them. probably heard them a bit late for that

But they still were a great band. I feel that some people think Fugazi were better because they have a bigger output.

I'm not really bothered who Refused have or have not influenced, good or bad, I just prefer their music to the other two, albeit only marginally above Fugazi.