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Hard to imagine Furlong or Stein getting in the Chelsea line-up these days either...
Goodness yes...
A bit later but Bosko Balaban was one of the best.
Newcastle's conveyor belt of quality strikers like Andreas Andersson and Stephane Guivarc'h.
Corrado Grabbi and Martin Dahlin at Blackburn?
did someone say ricky otto?
ha, i love how
"The Infamous DiS thread" is one of the links on his wikipedia page
Was he ever a Premier league player?
you obviously missed this then:
http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a315/harrru/dis/?action=view¤t=rickyotto2.jpg
I have no idea who he is
but that is a wonderful artical.
One of our proudest moments
immediately withdrawn. I still have a printed copy at home.
That was my favourite
afternoon of all time. I didn't stop laughing for about 6 hours.
Andrea Silenzi
Dean Richards
Chris Sutton
I know they wern't exactly "the early days" but I'm not that old ok.
Dalian Atkinson
Sean Dundee
i think about paul stewart
most days. i say most days, occasionally. but veyr fondly. for this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnrNFSnr0WQ&NR=1
3 mins 50.
Of course!
That was glaringly silly of me 'cos that was the first cup final I really remember.
yep
i'm quite proud of the fact that that goal is my earliest memory.... and then des walker, wondergoal.
Who is Shovell?
And why are his opinions on Spurs Forest important?
Dean Saunders
though i think he was more the year before it all
dean saunders was a brilliant player
He was rubbish
by the time he ended up at Forest.
my childhood hero
oh how i long for a hero now
rubbish hair though!
Chris
Kywomia
Chris Kiwomya was great
for forgotten big-name signings...Ipswich signing Sixto Peralta?
Francis Jeffers
Surely one of the most expensive British flops of all time.
Steve Marlet
Seth Johnson
Juan Sebastian Veron
SERGEI
rebrov, certainly. illie dimitrescue.
who was that portuguese striker west ham signed that time
Paulo Futre?
Tomas Brolin
no, i'm fairly sure he wasn't portuguese
Brolin was Swedish
and played for Leeds and Palace.
I just thought I'd throw his name into the thread as he was fat and useless!
i was trying to gently rib you for replying
some would say, 'in the wrong place', though that's subjective
I do it all the time
It's wrong I know but I can't help it!
More recently
Nicolas Medina
And is it too early to say Samaras?
I was also thinking Samaras
for a future one
Future ones?
Alves & Tuncay for starters.
Shevchenko obviously
And then pretty much every foreign signing made by Rafael Benitez bar the obvious exceptions such as Torres and Alonso.
And Mascherano
And Reina
And Skrtel
And Agger
He has signed some serious flops though, I'll grant you that.
Mascherano I'll give you
and maybe Reina too. The other two haven't been here long enough to warrant much of an opinion either way to be honest, but for every Torrs there's been an Insua, Lucas, Babbel, Arbeloa and Itendje.
That should have said
Torres and Babel.
Yeah, Babel's been a let-down
Lucas I think could still prove himself.
And the less said about Fernando Morientes the better...
Forgot about him!
As I'm sure most Liverpool fans have too...
Hang on a moment...
Insua, Lucas and Babel are all under 21 - maybe a bit early to write them off. Arbeloa has been a very solid performer this year and that leaves your reserve goalie. Fair enough, Benitez has spent a lot in the transfer market but has often offloaded quite quickly if it didn't work and generally either made money or not lost a lot.
Tuncay has done ok this season.
Not consistently great but he's showing signs of promise.
But not good enough
to warrant pushing talented young English players down the divisions or out of the game altogether.
See also Fulham and their overseas army, Antti Niemi and Brian McBride being the possible exceptions.
Tuncay is good enough I disagree.
Fulham are another matter altogether, foreign players are cheaper that's why clubs do it.
I've no problem with foreign players
who improve the standard of the English game, but journeymen who're just here for the easy dollar and not a lot else, nah, sorry, can't condone it (and we've been guilty of it as anyone in the past - Silenzi, Jerkan, Mannini, Petrachi, Matrecano et al).
I don't think Tuncay is ever going to be the difference between Boro being anything more than a bottom 6 club, and players like Billy Sharp, Andy Robinson, Aaron MacLean, Jermaine Beckford, Frazer Campbell, Joe Garner, Kyle Lafferty and Freddy Eastwood to name but 8 probably wouldn't do any worse.
That's where we disagree.
Tuncay is a class above all those players, he scored a hat-trick against Man Utd in the Champions League last season.
Michael Mifsud scored two
against Man Utd in a one-off cup tie earlier this season.
Doesn't make him a world class player though does it?
At the end of the day, if a player at any level can't get himself motivated for a match against world renowned opposition you have to question what he's actually doing there in the first place.
Also look at the below poster..
..I'm sure he was probably earning more at Fenerbahce than he will for Boro, they have a fair amount of cash.
Maybe, maybe not.
Steve Gibson doesn't pay peanuts either.
Fenerbahçe supporters
pretty much think Tuncay is the best player every to pull on a pair of boots.
He came to the Premiership as a challenge, not for an easy dollar. If it was all about the money he would have stayed in Turkey.
I don't think you can really pass comment on him (or Alves) until the end of next season.
Back to the original question:
Luc Nilis
Pierluigi Casiraghi
and, of course, Alen Boksic...
Nilis and Casiraghi
were very unlucky with injuries...
I did use the word "future"
in the initial post but no, from what I've seen so far he doesn't warrant being labelled world class, and unfortunately its players like him and several of his also-ran colleagues (Pogatetz, Rochemback, Aliadiere) that do nothing to help the English game prosper as a whole.
Not that I'm just singling out Middlesbrough as its a symptom of the English game sadly, particularly at the highest level.
Fair enough...
you did say future. I just think Tuncay has done enough this season to suggest he will be a very good signing.
Alves, despite his goal scoring exploits in Holland, I'm not convinced about. £12 million for a 27 year old is a huge amount of money for a club like 'boro.
Middlesbrough do give young English players a chance though - Downing, Wheater, Taylor etc. It's just for some reason our Academy seems incapable of producing home grown strikers.
Plus
he's hardly 'big money' when he signed on a free.
It's all about
Winston Bogarde
I dare say his wages
are big money.