i think i did this thread about a year ago. Can we all be sensible now and admit they're amazing?
Brian may is/was an excellent guitarist, freddy mercury was a phenomenal songwriter, vocalist and above all frontman. They were bombastic and camp and brilliant. I find the use of "dont stop me now" as a "cheesy" disco hit has warped people's perception of them from a fun camp band with anthems and actual proper good songwriting to a "cheesy omg" kind of band.

oh yeah and really well produced at points too
...
Their albums contain staggering amounts of filler - but they are more than offset by their solid gold hits.
Deacon is a deceptively brilliant bassist also.
^ this
Thankyou for the sensible response
Last time it was all "Urgh queen, guitar solos, songs about being happy, urgh!"
I recently bought Sheer Heart Attack
Once you get used to the bombast and campness it's fantastic. Plus Killer Queen is one of the best written concise pop songs ever. The guitar solo is probably my alltime favourite. It still sends shivers down my spine whenever I hear it.
YES!
Brilliant solo.
John Deacon wrote "You're My Best Friend" too
Which is an amazing track
And Another one bites..
..the dust and I want to break free and my personal fave (with another neat guitar solo at the end), this anthem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR1pUIG_IaA
Plus...
He's got the sense not to be the money-grabbing post-Freddie era
see also John Densmore of the Doors
anyone who doesn't like Queen is musically dead
I am musically dead I guess
I can't deal with Queen on any level.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgw_RD_1_5I
I still really dislike Bohemian Rahpsody and Radio gaga with a passion
but I have a soft spot for killer queen.
I dont know much else by them mind
How can you hate bohemian rhapsody?
please don't say "because it's overplayed", because it's not.
its overplayed
sensible ?
me ?
NEVER !
I do think on the whole though
80's Queen was pretty awful. Then again I can forgive them because everyone became awful in the 80's
Aerosmith disagree with you
and Prince
and Michael Jackson
smiths
joy division
a million other bands
I disagree with Aerosmith
prince, michael jackson, joy division; probably a million other bands. I'd happy erase that decade if I wasn't born during it.
METALLICA
you clearly know nothing about music
THE POLICE as well
jesus man are you mad?...they were excellent.
Aerosmith were crap in the 80s
and have been ever since!
Permanent vactaion and Pump are GREAT albums
Yeah, I became pretty awful in the 80s.
Balls dropped, acne appeared, wanking started.
Yeah there's
loads of crap on their albums. The odd gem...mostly a singles band. I guess every home should have the Greatest Hits.
I cannot stand queen, and if I never heard them again I would be very happy.
I am not musically dead and I can appreciate 'camp cheesy' music when I want to.
Personally I cannot stand the noise that Brian May gets from his guitar, yes the bass playing is good but not great and the drumming is fine. Mercury had a great voice and was no doubt a great frontman but that does not change the fact that I cannot stand their music!
I rank them up there with abba of band I fucking despise!
Indier-Than-Thou Alert!
His guitar tone was one of the most amazing things ever
i'm still amazed by his playing. He's a total nerd about guitar playing which is pretty crap for your rockstar cred but if you want to know how to play diminshed blah blah 7th scales, he's your man.
it's not to be liked because it's 'camp cheesy'
it's to be liked because it's extraordinarily ambitious and brilliantly achieved music with a big fat heart. Irony is pop death.
I don't object to camp
camp is good, "cheesy" isn't. But yeah, what you said.
I only mentioned camp cheesy because others.....
had referred to them as such and my pint there was that if it comes down to camp cheesy then thats not why I dislike them.
I also don't fall into the 'indier than thou' bracket!
Can someone not air their dislike for a band without being tagged as something else.
I love Bob Dylans music but if somebody came on and slated Dylan then fine, but I wouldn't pidgeon hole them as some anti folk queen loving idiot!
Queens music makes my skin crawl and if I never heard them again I would be quite happy, just my opinion though.
hahahahahahahhahahahahah!
...
Bass playing good but not great? This comment is pretty n00bish.
And Brian May = Tone. So STFU on that, also.
One of the few bands I completely can't like :(
queen are mega
they went rubbish as soon as freddie decided to grow a moustache (i.e. hot space era) but their first few albums are really good. queen II is especially underrated.
I sway between two positions on Queen, and can never quite decide where to sit.
1. Best singles band that ever lived, one of those OH MATE THEY'RE PLAYING A QUEEN SONG ON THE RADIO!!! things, with a back catalogue of songs that can go up against anyones and win hands down. Despite overplaying, you can't deny Bohemian Rhapsody's place in the pantheon of brilliant rock performances, and trying to resist clapping along to Radio Gaga is actually pointless.
2. Childish playground rock that has the capacity to annoy me at every turn. Oh, you want to ride your bicycle? Good one. You're my best friend? Good one. Ending a song with the words 'fried chicken'? Good one.
Conclusion: Seven Seas Of Rhye is one of the most underrated singles ever, and the bit where he says 'Hey boys!' in Good Old Fashioned Loverboy is ace. Roger Taylor is the most annoying man in history.
Today, I like them. This may all change tomorrow.
Surely catchy singles epitomise these sort of simple silly catchy lines?
Look at all the great early beatles songs.
Sometimes they vex me though.
I get easily vexed.
that's understandable
and Roger Taylor is awful! I don't like his voice, drumming or attitude.
deary deary me
you are now demonstrating a complete lack of musical theory.
There is no denying....
the brilliance of bohemian rhapsody, but there it ends for me.
In fairness I have been put off them more by anytime I have read or heard an interview with Roger Taylor or Brian May.
They are like a gimmick band, their music doesn't stand up well against any of their peers!
Sometimes I think there needs to be a 'best of bamos' blog.
This post would be in it. It pretty much sums up what I would say about Queen, except I probably wouldn't be as raptuous about their 'highs' or as annoyed about their 'lows'.
But yeah: amazing musicians or not, their music just isn't something that I can really get my teeth into.
I owned Hot Space in the 80s and loved it, though.
I can't stand Queen.
although it might have something to do with my dad playing them regularly throughout my childhood.
I recognise the great showmanship and the bombast but I can count the number of songs I like on maybe three fingers. I can understand why people like them but it just doesn't work for me.
I'm surprised.
You're normally into things like this a lot more.
I FUCKING LOVE THEM!!!!
honestly,
A night at the opera is one of my all time fav albums.
I like rogers taylor singing voice too...i think brian mays a bit of a tool... though it has to be said the hairy git can shred
Aren't Queen a comedy band?
^^^^Yip!
^ can we have two souls for this table, please?
ha ha ha brandet, you are a fucking queen nazi!
I am, I'm sorry
it's probably a very unappealing trait! I apologise.
and I would accept that most of their albums are pretty awful in the main
but the two Greatest Hits albums are both brilliant.
not at all. I am a Bob Dylan nazi!
I don't want to argue with folk unless they are uncompromising nazi bastards.
Oh, I'm also a Bob Dylan nazi
and a Talking Heads nazi, and a Prince nazi, and rapidly becoming a Scott Walker nazi.
Hope there's no musical Nuremburg.
Prince is the man!
a tiny pervy god
I've been enjoying 'Parade' a lot lately.
My sister had a spare ticket for him when he played Glasgow...
about 15 years ago and she took me, I didn't know much about him at the time but he was fucking amazing. Great guitar player.
What is a soul anyway?
^^^I believe it was something that Kurt Russell traded for...
a bad attitude, fucking great boots and the ability to appear in some of the greatest films ever committed to celluloid!
soul
is the ring around your bathtub!
haha yeah
i mean seriously. just enjoy it. GET WIT DA CAMP.
somebody to love is fantastic. It's really not difficult.
Fat Bottomed Girls
is the bollocks.
Fat Bollocked Girls
queen
are amazing
innuedo credits the wandering minstrel guitar.... that solo!!!
"be free with your tempo be free be free!
surrender your ego be free be free to yourseeeeeelllffff!!!
and im going slightly mad!!
I use to love them when I was a kid
but I wouldn't listen to them now on purpose, as they are pretty annoying now-a-days, the songs make me cringe.
have recentlt
let go of the part of me that doesn't like queen and fully surrendered myself to The Hits
queen is great!
go for it live!
it's pretty funny with alot of people
who hate Queen. "What lps you heard?" "err Greatest hits 1 & 2".
My god go buy 'news of the world' or 'The Game'. Dragon attack seriously rocks.
It's just great songwriting wrapped up in that era's pomp.
Right I've had a think about it,
and the list of dreadful features of Queen is too long.
1 - They were called 'Queen'
2 - Brian May was in them
3 - They are now touring under the same name, minus the frontman
4 - They dressed up as women at any given opportunity
5 - Not only did they do straight-up disco and straight-up cock, they also went 'epic' towards the end
6 - There is a very good reason they aren't ever even mentioned or considered by music historians as one of the seriously important icons of popular music - and unfortunately, its because of the things mentioned above
7 - Its far too easy to be snobbish towards them. Unfortunately, they ARE music for the absolute masses. See also: Bon Jovi, Bryan Adams, etc.
I have also met numerous people
who claim to love them.
"Favourite Queen record?"
"Greatest hits 1."
well it is a good record
wrightylew for Prime Minister!
I'll vote for you anyway!
well
1 - I can persuade myself that most band names are good or bad really
2 - Noel Gallagher was in Oasis who you seem to rate judging by your user page
3 - this is pretty terrible but it doesn't have much to do with their old music
4 - again not much to do with their music
5 - Led zepp stuff can be pretty "straight-up cock"
6 - who judges what they want to listen to based on music historians? I wouldn't judge my happiest memories based on the fact that they were worth chronicling for the generations
7 - See Oasis, Led Zep, Kasabian
ineffective response
youve not answered the criticisms, youve just said yeah, well you like oasis and i think theyre shit!
I was trying to get the chap to see
that alot of musicians can be annoying, primarily because they are human. point 3 and 4 were answered or considered irrelevent as to why people like the music. I don't see what they have in common with Bryan Adams or Bon Jovi other than that they have sold alot of records. Ergo the Beatles = Shania Twain?
And if music critics don't rate them as influential or serious I very much doubt it has anything to do with them wearing womens clothing in a music video, their band name, or Brian May as a human being.
And whether I like Oasis or not has nothing to do with whether Noel is a tool. As it happens I do like some Oasis songs.
Stop being intentionally fucking stupid.
"I don't see what they have in common with Bryan Adams or Bon Jovi other than that they have sold alot of records. Ergo the Beatles = Shania Twain?"
And please. Don't ever dare bring The Beatles into a thread about Queen. Ever again.
Its like wearing a beautiful new expensive wedding dress to go and have a shit in some grotty public toilets, with sinister graffiti lining the walls.
Stop being intentionally fucking stupid?
"Its like wearing a beautiful new expensive wedding dress to go and have a shit in some grotty public toilets, with sinister graffiti lining the walls."
That's not a point that's just somebody whinging because they have run out of things to say.
Please take a deep breath and tell me again why music for the masses is always a bad thing.
WRONG
There is a very good reason they aren't ever even mentioned or considered by music historians as one of the seriously important icons of popular music - and unfortunately, its because of the things mentioned above
THEY ARE.
Imagine
that you haven't heard Bohemian Rhapsody 13432543254 times.
It's a bit crazy to think that it got to number one. It's all long and dramatic and ridiculous! Scaramoosh scaramoosh.
Queen were great but they did go rapidly downhill. As do most bands after ten years or so.
Early Queen is exceptionally good. Personally I have more time for early Queen than I do for Led Zep.
There I've said it.
^^^^^speechless
I have never ever written the word speechless before.
Get used to it baby.
I
just love them.
I am just back from lunch wher I said not a word to anyone.....
I have phonecalls to make but I cannot, work colleagues are asking me questions that I cannot answer because I am still speechless!
bit gay though
they composed 2 of the best soundtracks
to 2 of the best films ever (in my opinion)
Name another band who could pull that off?
A band
for guitarists, maybe? Most of the people I've met who are in to Queen have been guitarists and have spoken mostly about the guitar work.
Possibly
but even a layman should be impressed by May's guitar work. The tone, the melodies, the solos, the little flares he has. It's all great.
i just love the way
he layers his guitar solos. i can't work out where most of it is coming from.
right...
The first self titled album is awesome, featuring the instrumental version of 'Seven Seas Of Rye', and 'Son and Daughter' is a wicked track.
'Sheer Heart Attack' has an awesome intro 'Brighton Rock', and other greats, like 'Killer Queen' 'In The Lap of the Gods' (both parts) and of course 'Stone Cold Crazy'.
Fair enough they're in the so called bracket of stadium cock rock but good tunes is good tunes!
They're no Kiss
not nearly as good.
I can't like them because whenever I hear them
all I can think of is Freddie Mercury's disgusting moustached face.
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Freddie Mercury = Princess Diana
One of those celebrities that everybody in the public eye "just loved to be around".
i always thought diana had a cuntish air about her
don't compare them. she didn't write 'bicycle race' either.
she saved everyone in africa you moron!
I read that as 'shaved' lmao.
yeah, good for her
i just got the feeling that she was maybe a bit of a cunty person. cunts can do charity too - like bono and geldof.
now we're in 'what if?' territory...
but seriously, fuck anybody who can't shelve their pathetic elitism long enough to rock out and enjoy Bohemian Rhapsody, Don't Stop Me Now, One Vision, We Are The Champions etc...
You deserve to hear Jason Pierce crying his eyes out, or deluding yourselves that Fuck Buttons are revolutionary for the rest of your lives.
Apologies if that was a touch harsh.
Horrible,
pseudo-crusaderism.
"Yeah well, us down-to-earth lads are gonna listen to some good, honest ROCK. You librarians can fuck off and listen to spotty glasses nerd music and WE WIN."
What about someone like me? I respect music with soul and bollocks and authenticity (and Kasabian). I don't want to listen to Fuck Buttons either, but given the choice, I'd rather have to listen to one Fuck Buttons track on repeat every day for the rest of my life than ever hear another Queen song.
what has that got to do with anything?
Can't we just agree that if you like the music you will listen to it? Not everyone is concerned with filling up their sonic portfollio with music that helps to further their classist views, either down-to-earth or elitist. It's not down to earth to say you enjoy queen and it's not elitist to say you can't stand them.
However it is elitist to say the reason you don't like them is because they made dumb music for the masses or because they aren't influencial enough in the eyes of "critics".
If it brings people joy at nobodies expense then how can it be a bad thing? At least they never tried to be overtly political or philanthropic to further their egos.
soul and bollocks and authenticity
HA!
no
I have a medium here with me and she's channelling the ghost of Freddie Mercury.
Do you have a message for us from beyond the grave?
"Yes" she's saying, "you're all cunts".
i think the real beef is
It's cool to like Led Zep but it's uncool to like Queen.
Everyone forgets how gash Zep where by the last lp. My god it ranks alongside 'Hot Space' by Queen as pure tosh.
That's because.....
Queen suck and Led Zep fucking rock!
Or because its just all a matter of preference.
Both rock and yes
it's preference. It just makes me laugh how everyone forgets the bad eras of bands.
^^^^ha ha ha I am a massive Dylan and Zep fan......
but when in arguments with friends and what have you I conveniently leave out Zeps last album and pretty much all of Dylans stuff from 78-95.
Queen didnt make a bad lp till 82 and then it was a slow
decline in quality. All bands do it. Dylan can blame christianity for his cack output tho!
Pah religion....
has ever worked for anybody?
* has IT ever worked for anybody?
Yeah
I'd like to pretend the Kinks stopped making records after Muswell Hillbillies.
When I was a kid I loved them
I would listen to Greatest Hits II incessantly (pausing occasionally to listen to Pornograffitti by Extreme).
Now they don't do anything for me really. Except for Innuendo, I can't get enough of that bit where May's electric guitar comes in after the flamenco bit. I will NEVER get bored of hearing that.
They've got to have one of the strongest
back catalogues of singles from any band ever, surely?
You're My Best Friend has to be one of the sweetest songs ever written by a bassist
But then Brian May did do that thing on top of Buckingham Palace, so it's swings and roundabouts
Greatest Hits Pt 1
is all you really need. Their 80s output was pretty shocking. 'The Miracle' for instance. Absolute piffle.
no way
there are at least 4 or 5 albums from the 70s that are excellent. i think it's agreed that they became pretty poor in the 80s but you can't say that greatest hits 1 is all you need.
I'm not sorry to say that I actually hate them
Things like 'having a great guitar tone' are completely useless comments, I can't connect in any way with their pompous, over the top camp-pop. Their songs just grate on me immeasurably.
They were great - theres no denying it
Yes Queen were excellent and deserve recognition. I happen to have quite a few of their good songs, that numbers around 80. I don't spend all my time listening to them though.Freddie was a legend because he made himself - he rose from nowhere and didn't even recieve training. He was naturally talented , and intelligent. He suffered nodules or whatever in the early 80's and then hs voice became rougher, but even then he could do amazing things with it. Brian May is a godly guitarist and song - writer, his attitude, abilities and his unique personality make him great. Eric Clapton himself said that Brian can do things that he couldn't even come close to. Roger is a surprisingly good drummer. He also never recieved professional training but his style of drumming is one of the most unique I know of. He and Brian really know how to play for the benefit of a song and not just at the speed of light :/ He has so many little trademarks in his drumming. Also hes a mint singer. John is brilliant because hes so different to what people expect of band members. He was a sensational player and also very quiet and kind.
ALl 4 members wrote massive hits and were talented with various instruments.
As for Queen declining in the eighties, theres no denying it but this was also a very hard decade for the band. Brian was suicidal and Freddie was diagnosed with AIDS in 1987. There was so much tension in the band. Their talent for success still shined through overall with tracks such as I Want It All, Play The Game, Another One Bites The Dust, Under Pressure, Its A Hard Life, theres alot of them. Bands today do not have enough talent to have the same sustainable success that Queen had.
The one thing about Queen is that each member had huge input to their songs, and the band played and recorded songs even if there was not complete aggreement. Given the different tastes of the members, this would make for a strange combination. What most people don't do is listen to their earlier albums such as Queen II - which was their best. They have released quite a bit of rubbish but odly enough everything seems to appeal to someone. Every1 makes fun of Flash but in fairness for an old chessy comic book heroe what would you have composed? It suited the film, and the film flunked the song was a hit. Never heard the rest of the songs for that film.
These are all great songs IMHO
Teo Torriate
'39
White Queen
Save Me
Now I'm Here
The March Of The Black Queen (After listening to the song a few times, u really understand how good the sections are and how they blend together - brilliant with strange lyrics that only Freddie understood)
Somebody To Love
Keep Yourself Alive
Great King Rat(brilliant)
Seven Seas Of Rhye
Ogre Battle
Love Of MY Life
Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
Stone Cold Crazy
Life is Real
You and I
Theres too many to mention
Even solo work was great - Too Much Love Will Kill You?
Later period work was lacking but I liked quite a few of their songs from then
Breakthru - may be 80's synth smuck, but it was energetic and uplifting, a rare gem
The Miracle - Is a good song if only they had cut out the end jam with the kids and moved straight to last part and extended it
Who Wants To Live Forever
Is This the World We Created..?
The Show Must Go On
These are tHe Days Of Our Lives
Headlong
Innuendo
Hammer to Fall
I Want To break Free - its pretty neat :)