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does anyone here NOT like dillinger escape plan?

just seems a bit dull to me



  • Get back to listening

    to your The Foals ringtone!

    • I prefer

      Dillinger Four

    • i want to like them

      I just cannae do it capn!

  • ?!?

  • well dull is definately the wrong word

    whether you like them or not

  • weirdo

    • gimme some

      convince me

      • 'sugar coated sour'

        has one of the best openings of any math/hardcore track - insane. you have to see them live, really, to unnahstan.

        • Not really

          Live they are incredible, but then they are on cd too.

          Dull is the worst possible word you could use for this band.
          I'd except you not liking them, but dull?

          • Why

            can they not be described as dull?

            • because they're not dull

              maybe unpleasant or rubbish but not dull

              • its very easy to get bored listening to loud abrasive stuff

                • Dillinger aren't ALWAYS loud or abrasive though.

                  And even when they are being as aggressive as possible they still play with intelligence and variety. Have you heard 'Ire Works'?

            • Because of the sheer energy

              of their music.You may not like it,but you won't be bored

              • i get fucking bored listening to anything from calculating infinity

                • I'm not a fan at all either

                  • But would you call them dull?

                    And I'm saying you have to be a fan

                    • I just think it's all a bit shit

                      dull no...I guess not....but does absolutely nothing for me....

                • Then you're the exception,

                  not the rule!

                  • hence me asking the question

                    to find this out!

              • Why

                does energy = not dull? Lots of chart pop has energy but is really fucking boring.

                • Good point

                  I mean more intensity.That said,it may still bore.Different people etc.

  • Yes.

  • i don't

  • i like them

    dull? i'd rather you'd have said shit.

  • I am watching them on youtube for the first time.

    Sugar Coated Sour.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smg3coINg0E

    They seem like a bunch of talentless, posturing pre-adolescents. I am staggered that they are in any way adored.

    That said - if you like them good luck to you. Just don't ask to borrow my lawnmower - you'd clearly not clean all the clippings out properly.

    • MEGALOLZ

      for either scenario

      a) You're being serious
      b) You're not

    • you have misunderstood....

      ... and hence you lose at cool.

      • but...

        ... i'm with you on the clippings thing. people dont respect mowers enough.

    • come on - we've been over this!

      You cannot judge a band on a shitty youtube clip. Dreadful sound quality plus song taken out of context, not a good plan.

      Listen to an album properly on decent speakers / headphones and then form a judgement.

  • LBC assures me i'd like them

    and whilst i've never heard a full song i've only seen clips of them playing shouty metal music with an aggresive cunt singer who punches people, so I'm not sure i would. I'm willing to give anything a chance.

    • Slayer are wayyyyyy better

      • I nearly got killed at a Slayer gig

        When I drunkenly proclaimed "They've only got 1 riff and just recycle it in every song!"

        Thought I was going to get mobbed. Although clearly I was wrong, they were still pretty boring to be brutally honest!

    • I think you'd admire the technicality

      They're like the metal version of Don Cab. With an intensity similar to Converge.

      I think Botch are my favourite of that triumvirate though.

      • Converge> Dillinger> Botch

        • marry me :D

        • Botch>Converge>Dillinger

          • This man knows his onions

          • Really?

            Have you heard anything Botch recorded before 'We Are The Romans'?

          • Converge >. Dillinger > Botch

            I'm not sure why these bands are always compared mind.

            Converge have it all - creativity, back catalogue, distinctive talents within the band.

            Dillinger created pretty much a new way of playing guitar in modern metal. 2 classic releases (CI and Irony is a Dead Scene). The heavy moments in Ire Works do sound pretty tired though.

            Botch are decent. We Are The Romans is a solid record, but overall I think early Cave In/Coalesce etc were just as good if not better.

            If it's silly comparisons we're dealing with, then Minus The Bear are better than Botch anyway :P

        • ^this

          as much as i hate agreeing with you.

  • dont like them much

    well, didnt last time i gave them a chance. will have another go now

    • i'm listening to calculating infinity now

      and its better than i remember, and i get more out of it, but it still sounds like shit compared to converge. no passion.

  • now they are

    but the new album is an improvement on the second one..which was terrible

  • Calculating Infinity

    is the only thing worth listening to by this band. People who say "Oh, but they've progressed so much since then!" don't know what they are talking about and are probably Tool fans.

    • whats wrong with tool?!?

      • I'd rahter listen to

        Mike Flowers spank Mick Hucknall's pink pancakes with Chris Martin's face.

    • yeah, that must be it.

    • PROGRESS NO WAY!

    • Tristannnnnnnnnn you are

      wronnnnnnnnng. Just plain wrong.

      There other records are different to Calculating Infitinity, yes, but that doesn't make them bad.

      When they take elements of free jazz and mix it with metal(core) in CI they are geniuses; when they take elements of pop and do exactly the same thing they get disowned by people whose idea of fun is scoring hardcore points off each other.

  • Ire Works FTW.

  • i've never really listened to them

    so can't comment, is that near enough to dislike?

  • Couldn't get into it last time i tried

    I didn't like the vocals.

    However, since then I've gotten into stuff like the Locust, Spazz, Refused, Converge etc, so I expect it'll go down better.

  • theyre a lot of things but dull is not one

    • I'm not really keen on them

      I do like a lot of similar stuff but not them in particular. I've seen them as well - go me

  • I tried, and it's not awful

    But if I want to destroy my hearing there are other methods.

    For example: Drop The Lime live @ Fabric, which I'm listening to currently. Ouch.

  • If it helps...

    I wasn't really a fan of Calculating Infinity either but I found both Miss Machine and Ire Works are quite enjoyable particularly the more ambient/progressive tracks.

  • 43% Burnt Out

    considering ive seen dillinger most times since 1999 in the UK, and been a big fan of bands like Cave In, Coalesce, Botch etc...

    I do find DEP now a bit watered down, less progressive and less dangerous. I really thought the last album was a big let down.

    time to put the beast to sleep i say.

    • i don't

      but then again, i've never heard anything by them. i don't think they'll be my cup of tea.

  • i dont.

  • i never liked them

    even when i listened to alot of metal stuff like them

  • annoying voice

    big time

  • Don't like 'em at all

    But dull is the wrong word, I'd use "shit".

    • i dont like em either

      they are tuneless. and like a lot of hardcore & experiemental stuff. doesn't do it for me.

      • Cave In's

        Until Your Heart Stops is the only album of the kind I listen to anymore. Botch and Converge hold up too but Dillinger never did much for me. I liked Miss Machine for a while, but that guys Mike Patoon apeing gets old.