Authors Anthony Thornton and Roger Sargent claim to have been around the band from their earliest gigs right through to their rather inevitable implosion.
The book is released on February 23rd.
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Libertines "changed British culture", says new book
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by Mike Diver
Artists: The Libertines
Words: Mike Diver
Posted: 06 Dec '05, 14:22
Posted: 06 Dec '05, 14:22
A forthcoming book will tell of how some low-profile London band, The Libertines or something, changed British culture. No, really...
The Libertines: Bound Together comes with the fairly unbelievable tagline, "Of Pete Doherty
And Carl Barat And How They Changed British Culture". Apparently. Maybe. So it says here.
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But who are they?
Are they any good?
No
they're a bag of shite. dont bother.
don't
believe the hype.
no no no no no!!!
always believe the hype! hype is gooodd believing hype makes us (cuntingly) british mmmmm!
,
all balls
whether or not
you like the libs, you can't say they had no impact on our culture.
they did.
they elped change uk music for the better.
How..
exactly?
Well it's not
my bloody year zero, but I guess some people like dat shit.
Seems
whenever i saw them on the telly, either the soundman was really bad or they were. Couldn't make anything out.
They
kind of did I spose... they were the first British band to follow the Strokes' craze kind of sound four years ago.
peh to the libertines.
peh, peh, and peh, i say.
roger sargent's a good photographer though.
now
i'm laughing.
Thanks you for this news...
I Liked The Libertines...
...But the only sense in which they "changed" music is that now most new bands rip off the Jam, rather than Oasis or the Stones.
They wrote some great songs, inspired some appalling shite and split before they could fulfil their potential.
Even if they changed music, they sure as hell didn't change culture. Maybe they did for a tiny part of London but, to the vast majority of people in this country, the Libertines are simply the ex-band of Kate Moss's crackhead boyfriend.
I honestly think they did change culture
Or they certainly exploited a zeitgesit if they didn't. There was a genuine sense of an emerging youth trying to be different, to be poetic to be artistic and to strive for some sort of bohemian ideal.
Or maybe more people started wearing blazers and scarves and reading poetry...
They are only as important as
Frankie Goes To Hollywood. They represented a six month media frenzy that will only be of use when they start compiling the 'Do You Remember 2003?' TV programmes. When asked about it, folk will shuffle their feet and look all embarrassed.
They didn't change . .
'British culture', but they have had a profound effect on quite a few people, I can't believe I'm going to say this but they were the most important rock band of my generation, (well to me, at least). Maybe not for most DiS-ers, and whether you now ignore them for what's gone on subseqently concerning crack and the red tops, they had a vast array of brilliantly written tracks. I sound like an Oasis twat but really, what other band has got a Time For Heroes and a Don't Look Back Into The Sun?
....
I am not sure they changed British culture, but they definately made a massive impact; you only have to look at the amount of news stories/references on this site (a site which openly despises Doherty) to realise that the libertines had some effect.
This news article
Is there any purpose of this news article other than getting users to react in a disapproving way?
On the whole, DiS readership is very much anti-Libertines (and very vocal about it given the chance), so this just seems to serve as a little treat for most on here
Just to clear up, I'm not a huge Libertines fan
Anthony Thornton
I was meant to be taught by Thornton at uni this year in my pop music specialism module.
He did it last year, but is not this because he was working on this book.
It's a good job he didn't take us as I don't think I would have liked him and could possibly have punched him in the face.
Everyone knows chavs changed British culture.
louis walsh
is changing british culture. fact.
NURSSSE..
british culture has most certainly changed, thanks to the libertines. you see a band like the libertines had sounded a clarion call to all the hovels and squats in whitechapel, the ratty looking indiesquat kids put down their crackhorns and ipods (yes, ipods, fake poor sods) and formed EVEN WORSE BANDS. They get a little money from rough trade to buy some moorish crack, and therefore dont have to pinch my tandem bike, or work in the whitechapel branch of Kebabish, lessening the quality of the food. So, basically, more stuff for the immigrants to nick, and more crappy jobs for em, too. Changing british culture. And that's how the libertines saved britain, god bless em.
But
will Dirty Pretty Things have any profound effect on anyone? It's as if they've just decided to do what the Libs set out to do in the first place before Arcadia and crack took hold, they've formed the Strokes mark 2.
But
will Dirty Pretty Things have any profound effect on anyone? It's as if they've just decided to do what the Libs set out to do in the first place before Arcadia and crack took hold, they've formed the Strokes mark 2.
How the fuck
did the libertines supposedly change british culture? I'd like to read the end paragraph of that book. And what british culture? I don't want to get too ex-media student twatty on you, but is there a single british culture? The only people the libertines affected were middle-upper class kids with too much money who wanted to think they were rebelling against mummy and daddy by listening to this punkish-esque music which wasn't even good. So what exactly have the libertines done? Tell me something they've actually done to effect the wider britain and I'll CONSIDER retracting my statement.
Affect
the wider britain. sorry...
Dur of course they changed British culture...
without them we wouldn't have Pete Doherty's sweaty mush plastered all over the papers with his latest ramblings about Kate Moss.
I didn't say it was a change for the better...
That,
is true, but still hasn't changed our culture.
Hmm...
' The only people the libertines affected were middle-upper class kids with too much money who wanted to think they were rebelling against mummy and daddy by listening to this punkish-esque music which wasn't even good.'
What the fuck? They obviously had some kind of effect on you, otherwise you wouldn't be posting on this thread.
British Music Reinvigoration...
The Libertines did not change British culture, they just gave the british music industry a comeback. before they came along listening to British bands was a ludicrous idea, unless you liked boring shite like Embrace...The Libertines were the first proper important band we had seen since Oasis. They had the tunes, clothes, attitude, lyrics, charisma, ethos and the sheer excitement which really had been missing from British popular music for so long. They were one of the first bands in a long time to realise that the kids listening balding americans screaming a lot a dour northern anthemic drivel was not acceptable. They were truly a youth band, as your parents probably wouldn't like them (ironically the reason why Eminem and Nu-Metal were so popular beforehand) How many other british bands spawned any kind of copycat fans at that time, none. The Libertines were sexy and accsessable in equal measures. And most importantly they had some absolutley brilliant tunes with a unique lyrical style. I'm gonna get shit from some quarter for saying this, but fuck you. You probably have a beard and listen to exclusively canadian post-rock bands.
ok, sorry...
i was having a bit of a rant, the libertines have THAT effect on me. They piss me off so much that it makes me rant uncontrollably and nearly nonsensically. I don't think i made myself too clear as i was ranting. I just wanted to emphasise that they didn't change british culture, whatever about the music industry/scene/etc, they didn't change culture whatsoever. Fair enough, maybe they did have a effect on me (they made me hate them and all that want to be like them), but maybe i am a middle - upper class rich kid attempting to rebel against everything. They might have had a few good tunes, but they disintegrated into nearly nothing. I don't like the fact that they portrayed themselves as these kind of saviours of the poor etc etc bollocks, glamourised being complete twats and just trying to be the epitome of cool, when they were actually completely hypocritical. I don't know if i'm making any sense... i'm hungover and my train of thought is.... not right.
Sad fact is
that it wasn't The Libertines changing anything - as ever, the right people in the right places told declared that they were cool and, hey presto, thousands of people decided they wanted to be Just Like Pete And Carl. I can't deny that they looked really cool and as tragic tales of fame and ego gone wild go, it's a gripping one; but the real tragedy (lost friendship aside) is that that's what they seem destined to be remembered for, rather than the fact that they wrote some of my favourite tunes and made two of my favourite albums, and made me very happy on many a drunken night in.
They were one of the first bands...
to really start giving away material on the internet, something which bands like Arctic Monkeys have follwed.
Its an ace book and they were an amazing band.